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to hillary clinton or joe biden when it comes to running for president, but there's plenty of time. we're only three years and 11 months away from election day. let's turn to michael tomasky, correspondent for "the daily beast". it's a lot of fun to talk about it, but it's amazing -- not that she doesn't deserve it. it's a quick endorsement on all fronts globally. how do you compete with that? >> it's awfully tough to compete with that. the speculation, ed, it didn't start this weekend at this event. speculation started before this election even took place. there were already articles in september and october about what hillary clinton would do. we don't know what she's going to do. it will be interesting to find out. but presumably some time around the 2014 midterms, right after those midterms is probably whether perspective candidates will take stock of things, do some polls, size up questions, talk to the people close to them and i think she'll be among those people. she's probably very interested in being president. i don't think she's itching, desperate to be president, but she's

. >> the effort continued today. joe biden had lunch with middle class americans who will see their taxes go up if republicans refuse to extend 19% of the tax cuts before the end of the year. >> folks, this is not hard. this ain't rocket science. it would take 15 minutes from the time the decision is made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent the middle class tax cut. the president would probably have me spin up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. it can be done like that. it is not complicated. >> vice president joe biden did not waiver on the white house's position. it's all about the top tax rates. >> every serious economist i have spoken to, left, right, and center, knows you have to do something about revenue and rates. you can't get there from here without affecting people at this table. or fooling around with the mortgage deductions. you can't get there without the rates being affected. >> the white house is not backing down on rates. the president sent his legislative affairs director to meet with the republicans on the hill. he told him the white house

in the 1990's, and a big advocate? joe biden, who said it would have the moral suasion all over the world. treaties are useless. what matters is forced. >> are we -- we -- >> hold on a second. the united states president says something will happen. do you think he cares if it is written on a treaty and a turtle bay? >> treaty? >> i am making a retroactive. . > -- retroactive point. >> making a red line is important. i am not sure with the red line is. i am not sure how you bomb chemical weapons. >> you cannot. >> what form will the united states intervention take? >> there is no use of what brown her -- of a drone here. >> what if the weapons fall into the hands -- >> the real issue is not that assad is going to use them, because he hangs if he does that. the world will not give him refuge in russia or elsewhere the problem is if he is losing control, if he is using air bases, if this stuff in there in the hands of jihadists, we really have an issue. that is with the u.s. and turkey and others are worried at seizing it before it happens, because otherwise we will have al qaeda an-- >> i d

spending right now. the other side of this though, of course, is vice president biden went to a diner today to talk to some middle class folks and he basically said he has been talking to business leaders to say the converse of this is if there is a fiscal deal business leaders tell him the economy will be unleashed. take a listen. >> the upside is even bigger than the downside. they are ready to move they have well over a trillion dollars out there continue to vest if they think that the economy is going to move. >> and i have been talking to officials in both pears who say that has been the most surprising thing to leaders in washington here in private is that the markets have remained relatively stable despite this uncertainty here in washington. it will take though just one or two days next week or so for the markets to get a bit jittery and then all of a sudden that might light a fire under lawmakers here to finally get a deal, shep. >> shepard: it okay vice president biden today signaled he thinks the deal is coming and snapped his fingers along the way. this is a two man deal now pre

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to negotiate to stop us from going over the fiscal cliff. vice president biden picks up the road show today. he is having lunch with some people but where and exactly with whom has yet to be made public. it has gotten more than a hundred thousand stories from people talking about how the tax incries would affect their families. there is a second round of advertisements today pushing lawmakers to not just make a deal, but to make a deal that protects social benefit programs. >> if the politicians in washington negotiate a bad deal on the bucket and deficit, what do you think will happen to medicare and medicaid benefits. >> it stars two senator and two republican reps. cnn reports the labor unions are spending more than a half of million dollars on this round of spots. we're back with more steph after the break. stay with us. ♪ going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are w

biden put the pressure on boehner in the way that only joe biden can. >> folks, this is not hard. this ain't rocket science. it would take 15 minutes from the time the decision was made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent middle class tax cuts. the president would probably have me sprint up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. it can be done like that. it is not complicated. >> the president and the democrats have the poll numbers on their side. 53% of people approve of the job president obama is doing. 53% trust him to handle the negotiations while just 36% say they trust the republicans in congress. and 65% of voters are with the president on a sticking issue in these negotiations -- raising taxes on household income over 250,000. 31% oppose it. and today a new number is strengthening the president's position in the negotiations. the november jobs report shows the unemployment rate has dropped to 7.7%. the economy added 146,000 jobs last month, and that is one reason why today john boehner kind of, sort of maybe entertained the idea of giving p

state lines. that made it a federal offense. by the way joe biden wrote the law. >> cenk: i hope you're right. biden and obama don't have a great record on this. let's bring in a different point of view. you and i agree we're optimistic about the laws that we hope it goes in the right direction and spreads across the country. i'll bring in sandra, a member of colorado concern. i don't believe she shares our point of view. what is your take on legalizing marijuana in colorado. >> good evening cenk, happy to be here. i represent the business community, and we're very concerned about the passage of amendment 164 and it's implication for business and for colorado. >> cenk: why? >> that's our concern. >> cenk: i don't get that? i guess if you represent the alcohol companies you might be worried about competition but why the business. >> we're concerned about productivity our liabilities our obligations and relationship to our employees. it changes the relationship. we have established a constitutional right to use marijuana, and that changes the game. we have concerns about that. >> what

at the cayman island. >> it's a nice gesture for the president considering that he hasn't let joe biden have lunch with him even once. that he hasn't let joe biden have lunch with him even once. >>> as you heard, we have lots more to talk about with our roundtable right after this from our abc stations. >> but, the problem with controlling costs you can only do that to some degree. every single year we go back and do the "doc" fix and we'll do it between now and january 1st. that is all always a phoney that congress is going to cut payments to doctors and doctors pull out of the medicare program. >> and the money is restored. >> it's hard to do this without structural reforms. >> let me, if you don't mind, we have seen people's retirement package reduced. we have seen people's individual savings, go down. you can't keep on seeing 401(k)s go down and then say, we're going to cut the other stuff that people count on. >> the numbers have to work. >> i want to turn to the tax debate as well. you guys are sitting back. let's get to the tax debate. you have seen speaker boehner, and other republic

worth noting that bill clinton should maybe take a page from the joe biden playbook because he after all is the person we have to thank -- >> the joe biden playbook. >> and taking a page from it. >> thank you to ari, joy and frank for joining me today. that is all for us here at "now." see you back tomorrow at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pacific when joined by josh green, new york magazine's benjamin wallace wells, former communications chair karen finney, "washington post's" melinda headen burger and carrie kennedy. for a twitter tutorial, follow @nowwithalex on your twitter machine. "amount reports" is coming up next. anncr: some politicians seem to think medicare and... social security are just numbers in a budget. well, we worked hard for those benefits. we earned them. and if washington tries to cram decisions about the future... of these programs into a last minute budget deal... we'll all pay the price. aarp is fighting to protect seniors with responsible... solutions that strengthen medicare and... social security for generations to come. we can do better than a last minute deal... t

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president biden is having lunch with several middle class americans who would see their income taxes go up if the tax cuts are not extended. all of this comes as the first jobs report since the election exceeded expectations. the u.s. economy added some 146,000 jobs last month. that was enough it to drive the unemployment rate down to 7.7%. joining me to talk about all of it, florida congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz and she chairs the democratic national committee. good friday afternoon to you. >> thank you. >> john boehner said today that democrats' plan is to, quote, slow walk our economy to the edge of the fiscal cliff. how do you respond it to that? >> well, that's just utterly preposterous. the republicans right now in the house of representatives have a bill that would extend the middle class tax cuts right away that has passed the senate that they could take up next week when we come back. they could have already taken it up. we have a lot of time, and the republicans refuse to give certainty to the middle class. the president said he'd seen this bill right away, and then the

and women. back then, senator barack obama opposed the fcc's proposal. so did senators joe biden and hillary clinton. but now, president obama's man at the fcc -- they were friends in law school -- apparently wants to do what the republicans couldn't do under president bush, and to do it behind the scenes, out of sight, with no public hearings. several public interest groups, civil rights organizations and labor unions opposed the move, and last week, senator bernie sanders and several of his colleagues called on chairman genachowski to hold off. bernie sanders is an outspoken opponent of media consolidation. he sees it as a threat to democracy. once the mayor of burlington, vermont, he served 16 years in the house of representatives and was recently re-elected to his second term in the senate. he's the longest serving independent in the history of congress. he was in new york earlier this week and we met for this interview. welcome. good to see you again. >> good to be with you, bill. >> this is a strong letter, inspired one of your colleagues in the senate says, by you. what's the beef? >>

%. the president has been insisting all along those rates rise again but there's wiggle room here. president biden asked if it could be 37%, hedged on the question. even john boehner initial why when asked this question hedged a little bit. speaking of republicans, a rising star, senator marco rubio had this response in the weekly gop response to the president. >> we must get the national debt under control. tax increases will not solve our $16 trillion debt. only economic growth and a reform of sbilgsment programs will help control the debt. we must reform our complicated uncertain job killing tax code by getting rid of unjustified loopholes. but our goal should be generating revenue by creating new taxpayers not new taxes. >>> so alex, the question, your initial question, can it get done? the answer is yes. joe biden joked yesterday he could run it up to the hill from the white house in 15 minutes and run it back and have the president sign it. maybe not that quick. but most people believe if the will is there and votes are there it could get done in relatively short order. >> that's the big que

of immigration i was voting for obama-biden, because of immigration. >> you are unique in that respect. most people, most latinos didn't when they tell pollsters why they vote, they i'm voting because of the economy, because of jobs. all of the same reasons that everybody else gives. immigration is down by four or five. >> i got you. here's diana. you're from columbia, how old are you. >> 15. >> how old when you came here. >> eight years old. >> would you have this child deported now? >> no. i wouldn't do anything about it. it's not my responsibility. her parents made a decision. they're going to have to live with it. it will play itself out, both the courts and legislation. but it's irrelevant in terms of this issue, because republicans being forced to deal with its this way -- >> it's not irrelevant. >> it is. i wish it were. >> i wish it were if reality. >> you're going to doom the party to objects lessen. >> you want me to be this antiimmigration, horrible gait who hates latinos. it's not true. >> the distinct of point of screw that i do and they do and that the 71% of the latino voters

and barack obama and joe biden if he knew what a computer is. i am happy when a president is not bombarding me with fundraising e-mails. i don't believe in story that involves bill clinton saying the word hoodie. >> bill, you told me you don't use e-mail at all. how are the computer classes coming? >> no, i use snail mail, but it is like e-mail because they deliver it to my customers. i put e in an envelope and send it to them. that's what they do. they take it and go -- >> i don't even know what that means. i don't know what this e is. >> mooy either. >> time to take a break, but more stuff is on the way. (car horn) paying with your smartphone instead of cash... (phone rings) that's a step forward. with chase quickpay, you can send money directly to anyone's checking account. i guess he's a kicker... again, again! oh, no you don't! take a step forward and chase what matters. space exploration company has come with a rough price tag for a ticket to mars. they say the trip will cost $500,000 per person which is almost half a million dollars. there is a rapid and reusable rocket that can land

. shawn began this by talking about biden's interrupting and occasional laughing. did you guys see that? was it obvious to you? >> i will tell you what is obvious, his agenda. wonder why he's praising the ad. >> there's an ad that we tested a week ago. it's one of the best ads of the week ago. >> it's no surprise fox guest pushing agenda but now we have a contributor getting paid from a candidate and the conflicts of interests are all over the place. this is a political outfit that affects what happens inside the party. joining me now is aaron bola are rte. senior fellow and joe madison, nationally syndicated radio host for the power. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> eric, secretly receiving money, be you reported that story. what is your reaction? >> media matters broke this story and it's painful to look at the facts. i mean, here's what is supposed to be a news analyst and he's getting paid to say how great even paul ryan is doing. and -- >> and being paid by the cam bank. >> and being paid $20,000 a month. you showed the focus groups that he was running. peopl

. joe biden hinted about running a handful of other democrats governor of new york and maryland are also openly looking at it. no, it's not too early. >> bret: we have time to talk about it. >> lots of time. >> bret: carl, thanks. sad news, the loss of a woman who made a difference half a world away. elizabeth murdoch, mother of our big boss died peacefully today in australia. at the age of 103. mrs. murdoch was the mother of four children, including rupert murdock. patron of the arts she contributed to estimated 100 charities annually. many of them concerned with the health of children. in 1963, elizabeth murdock was made a dane commander of the order of the british empire. one of britain's highest civilian honors for her services for social welfare. australia bestowed a similar order companion of australia in 1989. prior to her 100th birthday, the australian prime minister called her woman with turbo charge for her community service in her advanced years. on behalf of her extended family, rupert murdock said his mother would be mourned by countless thousands of australians whose lives

discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and for that matter, in the joint select committee. and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline, i think he's got an obligation to send one to the congress. and a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. if you look at the plans that the white house has talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. we are ready and eager to talk to the president and to work with him to make sure that the american people aren't disadvantaged by what's happening here in washington. >> good morning. you know, i think at this point, pretty much most folks in the country and certainly in this on taxes. i think we understand that. but to the speaker's point, we have not had any discussion and any specifics with this president about the real problem, which is spending. we have got to do something about the spending. and obsessions to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. what will solve the problem is, doing something about the entitlements, taking on the wasteful

now on the jobs report. joining me is former economic adviser to vice president joe biden, jared bernstein, and ron insana. you heard the speaker and his comments moments ago. this is good for the president, the jobs report, no doubt. he can argue that, my policies have been working, better tax hikes for the upper 2%, more amenable because the economy is coming along. how do democrats leverage this in the key cliff negotiations going on? >> i think the key point is that there is some momentum in the jobs report. the labor market diminished a little bit in december. that's why the unemployment rate fell down, not because of extra jobs. but all told, especially expecting sandy's damage, it was a pretty good report and it shows that there's some und underlying momentum. the argument from the president or from anyone who cares are this economic recovery, it would be a crazy time to throw a monkey wrench at an ongoing recovery that has a little bit of momentum. >> ron, to you on this. talking about sandy, there seems to be a lack of sandy effect as some had thought initially. we see a

not everyone is pessimistic. >> reporter: literally snapping his fingers, vice president joe biden today suggested it will be easy to finish a deal with congress to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> it would take 15 minutes from the time the decision is made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent middle class tax cut. the president would probably have me sprint up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. it can be done like that. it is not complicated. >> greg: speaker bane -- >> reporter: speaker john boehner not so optimistic. >> this is not a progress report, there is no progression to report. report. >> reporter: he blasted for not offering a counterproposal to his plan and they seemed more than ever going to stop the tax increase. economy shrugged off hurricane sandy to create 146,000 new jobs, nearly double what forecasters had said, job creation for september and october was revised downward by a total of 49,000. another 350,000 people were so discouraged in november they simply stopped looking for work and left the labor force, which is why the unemployment ra

biden out speaking with middle class americans today said that the u.s. economy has turned the corner. he was very emphatic about that saying saying it is moving in a positive direction. at the same time, he was putting pressure on lawmakers to come to an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. it was yet another white house effort to rally support around its approach to the fiscal cliff. joe biden sitting down with seven middle class americans worried about their taxes going up. >> these are hard working, serious americans who are playing by the rules, doing it all right, and struggling already in this economy. >> reporter: jobs numbers, proof the administration says that the president's economic policies are paying off. >> you see it in the retail industry, you see it in transportation. you see it in health care. and you see it in other sectors. you do see a continued movement that continues to show some positive growth. >> reporter: while cautioning the nation's economy is far from a full recovery, administration officials emphasize positive growth, suggesting it puts them in a strong

yesterday. the army-navy showdown a classic. vice-president biden gets things underway with a coin toss and navy would open up the scoring, not to be outdone, army comes right back, and the quarterback with the 11 yard up the middle keeper there. and just out to the fourth. and navy down three, they go ahead with four minutes to go. and then two minutes left and as if things weren't tight enough. army with the winning score and they hand off and navy recovers with a 17-13 win and so broken up, crying, he had to be consoled by four star general, and navy has now beaten army. and you thought that college football was over for the year. >> what a great event. i live in phillies and friday nights in the city is filled with people and army thought they had it, but 11 straight. >> clayton: come on, army. let's check in with maria in for rick. >> good morning, everyone, we'll see a big shift in the weather pattern we've seen the last several weeks, very mild across the country and temperatures above average and enjoying basically very mild conditions for late fall and also early december, but

or leave it to the staffers? >> i think republicans in congress work better with vice president biden than president obama in these sorts of negotiations. >> america's happy warrior could be ruled out. what's your headline, good sir? >> unfortunately like past headlines, "in a jobs crisis, the republicans are still trying to cut health care and economic aid." i think that will be more and more difficult for them to carry as a message when people back home don't talk about cliffs, they talk about jobs, they talk about unemployment, and they don't want manufactured crises from washington when you could cut these tax hikes on the middle class, first order of business. >> it is fascinating. you eluded to it earlier, number of guests have talked about this as well, how we are very much in the posturing phase period as you indicated. a lot of bluster, a lot of chest thumping. one has to wonder at what point, at what point, perry, all of that ends and the real negotiating gets started. >> it's going to get close -- january 1st is getting closer. we're further from the posturing stage and further

president biden who hopefully has talked about running in 2016. both sides are playing this game not just republicans. >> all right, thanks to both of you. >> thank you. >> also making news a developing story in atlanta. fire officials say more than two dozen people have been overcome by carbon monoxide at an elementary school. everyone is expected to be okay after being taken to the hospital. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton says if syria uses chemical weapons against its own people the u.s. will act. there are reports indicating syria has been moving chemical weapons in the last couple of days. secretary clinton says their use would be a red line for the united states. >>> the parents of an 8-year-old georgia girl say they want to warn other parents after their daughter was bit by a dolphin at seaworld and they caught it on tape. take a look. sfwhoo. >> the girl's father post this on youtube saying seaworld is trivializing what happened but seaworld said employees and health professionals attended to the girl immediately. and that they are taking the situation seriously. >>> remem

be interesting, though. if vice president biden runs, which has been speculated about, there will be a real conundrum, and i think there's a conundrum for the democratic establishment if secretary clinton goes there. a lot of people feel that she would really be able to get the support of the big democratic donors and traditional parts of democratic party but not be able to bring along new parts of obama coalition, hence the gay marriage sticking point. 2016 is definitely wide open. hillary clinton was referred to me recently by an operative on the democratic side, very involved in the early jockeying says she's the 800-pound gorilla. if she goes the field is not necessarily hers for the taking, but she would have a significant advantage coming into the race. >> when the former president is asked if his wife will run, he always says he has no idea. is there any indication behind the scenes that she's either annoyed, flattered or feels pressure as so many people -- the election wasn't even over, and everyone had their list of republicans running. of course, her name has always been there for

control act other biden talks with eric cantor there is some way forward. this is their blueprint for it. the wonks get deep in the policy. we asked questions in the briefing about that. i asked about the further discretionary savings, 300 billion, about what type of programs are included that. the house progressive caucus is hesitant to cut anything like food stamps that have been on the chopping block before. they say there's a caps that house committees would agree to. what we see from this offer is the speaker saying, look, we can do big savings, we can do a down payment to get us through until next year and then have congress work on a bipartisan way to have a bigger agreement. one other sticking point here, this sequester is not identified in this proposal. so what does that mean? all those defense cuts we heard so much about, essentially the answer is there's enough savings in this plan that could -- that we could deal with the sequester, saying there could be a punt on the sequester by the savings on this plan. there's a lot of information in here. it's very wonky. obviously, thi

president joe biden has been meeting with his donors. and david wrote, hillary clinton is running for president. he came to that conclusion after attending a forum in washington where hillary clinton was a featured speaker and was introduced by what remnick calls a short, adoring film. the film was like an international endorsement four years in advance of the iowa caucus and the new hampshire primary. >> if you bet on the side of human rights, human dignity, more countries may have the same extraordinary good fortune that we've had. ♪ and when you smile >> someone who knows a thing or two about political comebacks, i can tell you i don't think we've heard the last of hillary clinton. ♪ girl you're amazing just the way you are ♪ >> i just have an instinct that the best is yet to come. >> joining me now, "the washington post" and jonathan capeheart. >> come on, these leaving her term as secretary of state. she's arguably been one of the best that we've had in a while. she's loved by clearly lots of people around the world, particularly foreign leaders and so there she is at t

on budget and policy priorities and a former economist for vice president joe biden. jared, if i might start with you, speaker boehner says he put forward a middle ground proposal. no tax increases for the healthiest of americahealthy est of americans, yet he wants to rage the eligibility of medicare and he wants to slash billions from every program. if that's a middle ground proposal, i would rather have the paul ryan budget but maybe they're the same thing. >> i was thinking what does the right side of the spectrum look like. you're absolutely right. if you look at the top lines here, which is all we have really, jay carney is right. there are no details here. the first thing you have that should really raise eyebrows is they talk about $800 billion in new revenues from unspecified loophole closures. where have we heard that before? i heard in your introduction references to the romney/ryan campaign. i mean, that didn't work in the context of a campaign. with the fiscal cliff three weeks away, it's absolutely crazy to be talking at that level of nonspecificity. and then, yes, you're right.

biden used when he was being interviewed by chris matthews on "hardball." the fever breaking is clearly a term of art in terms of what the white house seeins as the probl. as krystal's point, the politics has changed in some way. we don't have the deal set yet but when was the last time a democratic candidate had the guts to campaign saying that taxes would rise. republicans have had this game of fear playing out for many cycles now, to say we always win when we promise to cut taxes. those are the gifts that they were using and offering in mitt romney's terms. it didn't work this time. it actually worked for the president to say, okay, it's not taxes rising on everyone but some people will pay more taxes. that kind of play book has worked time and time again. ultimately what breaks the fever? the trump card is with the president. taxes will go up if they do nothing. going over the cliff will see taxes going up on everyone and that's what republicans can avert if they choose to do so. >> krystal, it's not like the right is not fighting back. >> sure. >> because you you are seeing people

of it with all of us in superhero costumes. so the president was superman, biden was spider-man, hillary naturally was wonder woman and for some reason i was the green lantern. but first of all, i nearly had an aneurysm when the helicopter went down. because i had been sitting in the west wing of the white house in 1980 during the iranian hostage rescue mission when the helicopter went down. and so, you know, my first reaction, is, oh, no, not again, but the team, the equipment, the training, all dramatically different. and we were really out of -- you know, we had no idea what was going on inside the house once they went inside the house. until, until we got the coded message. >> that was it? what did you think when you heard that? >> well, you know, there was no -- there was no -- there was probably a sigh of relief in the room, but there was really no letdown or no high fives or anything like that. because we still had to get them all out of pakistan and in a way, the diceyest part of the mission still was in front of us and that was getting everybody out safely, and so, really, it w

that we can all agree on, and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and for that matter in the joint select committee, and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and outline he's got an obligation to send one to the congress and a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. if you look at the plans that the white house has talked about thus far they couldn't pass either house of the congress. we're ready and eager to talk to the president and work with him to make sure that the american people aren't disadvantaged by what's happening here in washington. >> good morning. you know i think at this point pretty much most folks in the country and certainly in this town know where both sides are on taxes. i think we understand that. to the speaker's point, we have not had any discussion in any specifics with this president about the real problem which is spending. we have got to do something about the spending, and an obsession to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. what will solve

was the most valuable player out there. >> jennifer: absolutely. >> for the obama/biden campaign other than the two principles on the ticket. of course, every governor, every senator, every member of congress who was elected is also a super delegate who will choose the next president. >> jennifer: i don't see how the force -- the force the inexorable pull of this from those who support her and those who love her is just going to be too great. she needs to go to a spa. she needs to take a relaxing -- take a break. do the exercises. what she wants to do. but six months then we're back at it. all right. so you know, republicans have had some challenges appointing women. obviously we've all been talking about the number of women that were not appointed in the house republican caucus other than the one, candace miller. but the sunlight foundation, we were assuming it was because of sexism. the sunlight foundation has another theory which is that they were not appointed because they aren't as influential from a money perspectiv

and broad base, including vice president biden, who's done terrific job in his capacity as second in command, but we also have a lot of governors, a lot of diversity, duval patrick, and governor cuomo. now you have senator-elect elizabeth warren that might be considered presidential timber. i don't want to throw all our eggs in one basket, because there's wonderful of people -- martin o'malley, the governor of colorado. there are so many people, like the republicans, there will be a large field of candidates, but no question if secretary of state hillary clinton decided to throw her gloves into the race, game on. >> she's got a lot of competition. >> oh, absolutely. >> david, do you think the republican party will have the strongest field it's had in maybe a generation next time around? >> i thought actually 2008 frgs the strongest field the republican party has had in a long time. i think we'll see a lot of recruitment from governors. it was spectacular to see rubio and ryan on the stage. they are very popular with washington elite. they struck some important themes. they didn't have real c

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, joe biden2016.com, elizabeth warren2016.com and surprising santor santorumbush.com. >> whoa. >> all the speculation has got us thinking, maybe we should get it in on the game. people are making thousands off the cyber investments so why not get in on the action? >> absolutely. >> what domain would you snatch up. let's backspin on it. >> what you got, susan? >> i did research. there's optimists out apparently romneyryan is still taken. now, what's interesting -- >> it could happen. >> is that romneyryan2016. >> it is. >> how about ryanromney 2016? >> i didn't look that one up. but i did look up bloomberg and bloomberg2016. since he's leaving and leaving an opening for 2013, i thought it's the holiday times maybe i should buy s.e. for mayor. it is available. >> i can't believe it. >> snatch that right up for her. >> i guess that means it's my turn to talk. >> you got something for us here, steve? >> this is supposed to be the fun segment and i will give you my idea of fun way may not be anybody else's idea of fun. first, i would say if i had to snatch up a 2016 domain name so i could

and policy priorities and a former economist for vice president joe biden and also with us is msnbc political analyst karen finney. david, first, senator demint dumps all over boehner's job plan, now he's jumping ship altogether. how much of a loss is mr. demint, a man who once said single mothers who live with their boyfriends should not be allowed to teach in public schools? >> we at mother jones.com just put up the seven craziest things jim demint has ever said. there was a lot to choose from. don't ask me why we stopped at seven. >> do you have one better than the one i just quoted? >> that was pretty good. i think that's on the list. >> good. any others? >> people can just go there. the main thing here is that jim demint has been more an obstacle in the senate than, of course, in the house and i think his departure from there is good news i think for the one remaining moderate republican senator because he's really been quite responsible for choosing and picking and getting behind these tea party republicans like rand paul that have burrowed their way into the senate and made it much har

to report in the political theater vein. vice president biden will have lunch with a group of middle americans who can see their income taxes go up similar to the photo-op, the fiscal cliff photo-op of yesterday which was the president meeting with the middle class family. now to jobs. we have something of a surprise report. jobs turned out to be up up. the jobless rate is down and the word from the government is that sandy had no substantive effect on the data. here are the numbers. unemployment down to 7.7%. the economy added 146,000 jobs, not great but good. a third of that came from the retail sector. 53,000 jobs added. professional and business services up 43,000. leisure and hospitality up. construction, though, lost 20,000 jobs. we should note that jobs numbers were revise d downward, though, for september and october. in september it was revised from 148,000 gain to 238,000. went from 138,000 to 132,000. this month, the 7.7 is a full point lower than where we were at this time last year. so what are we supposed to make of these numbers and does the november report provide us

public. vice president joe biden is meeting with a middle class family. and yesterday president obama met with a virginia family. tax hikes for the rich are nonnegotiable. >> just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is for families like this one. >> joining me now is barry, msnbc political contributor and editor for grio. hello, guys. >> perry, i'm wondering if these new unemployment numbers add to the president's leverage? >> i think they do. the big thing is the election. but the jobs numbers suggest that the economy is doing well and it cuts against the republican argument that raising taxes on the rich with would hurt the economy and the economy is fragile. the numbers though that the economy is not fragile and that would improve the economy's leverage. he's still doing so many public events. he is trying to use that public pressure to sort of force the republicans to cut a deal. >> doing this public stuff but at the same time having these

to hammer this one out. today vice president biden is hosting middle-class families at the white house, continuing to pressure congress to strike a deal on tax rates below 250,000. yesterday, the president struck a hopeful note with a middle-income family in virginia, while maintaining a hardline on negotiations. >> the message that i think we all want to send to members of congress is, this is a sovble problem. i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for rate at the top 2% but i remain optimistic we can get something done for that is good for families like this one and that is good for the american economy. >> but the clock is ticking. with just two full weeks before christmas to go. joining me now from washington, the man with all the answers, cnbc's ayman jabbers. it's always so good and important to have you on the show. >> thanks. >> in general, but on days like today, where the numbers come out and we all think to ourselves, is this everything or nothing? what do these numbers mean and what do they portend for the fiscal cliff negotiatio

biden was out. he reiterated those two nonnegotiable demands on the part of the administration but said the actual amount of that top rate doesn't necessarily have to be 39.6. >> there are two irreducible minimum requirements. one, the top brackets have to go up. this is not a niabl issue. the second thing is, we have to have a mechanism to stop the brinksmanship on dealing with the national debt. >> now of course, this doesn't necessarily signal a turn in the talks between the administration and the congress. but there is the possibility that you have staff level discussions that continue to go on and we're just going to have to see over the next three weeks whether they can make a break. sometimes it looks darkest before the dawn. >> many thanks john howard. back to our panel. kerry, on this show last night, senator rand paul basically said you know what, no filibuster in the senate. let the democrats put their bill up and he will vote for it and make it a democratic tax hike period. end of sentence. elsewhere the republicans are very divided about tax hikes. is he right? is senator p

. >> the president said there was a war on women. joe biden said they'll put you all back in chains, we've had the race card, the war on women card, the class warfare cards. >> you can take a lot o of quots and mitt romney said corporations aren't people. he didn't care about the poor. only 47% of america is disto disavow. >> this will not stop with you guys. give me an example where they played the race card this year, give me one example. >> there's been many times. >> name one. >> when both sides have engaged in the type. >> name one. this is what mitt romney said on the 47%. >> it's racist? >> i didn't call it racist. >> give me an example of racist. >> i didn't call it racist. >> give me an example of the race card being played. give me one example. >> sean, what i'm saying is that there is speech out there that is being taken out of context and it's not helpful. i did not hear the president of the united states calling republicans evil. >> well, remember that the president of the united states who is supposed to represent all of the people once he's electedd referred to his political opp

silver lining. maybe eric cantor and vice president joe biden may be working together to reauthorize the violence against women act. >> yes. >> are you bullish or bearish? >> i'm hopeful. i got to say. i actually think there is an understanding of how important it is to get that done. let's be hopeful there. and who knows, alex. maybe that's an opening to a better day for women in the republican party. >> karen finney, you get tonight's last word. thank you for ending on a high note, my friend. >> take care. >> be sure to join me for "now" at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pacific, weekdays right here on msnbc. "the ed show" is up next. "hardball" starts right now. >>> gay marriage. an american right? let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start with this. today the united states supreme court said it would take up the issue of same-sex marriage. this is an astounding moment in american history and in the march of rights that began in philadelphia in the last quarter of the 18th century and continues through this first quarter of

a potential democratic field that could include vice president joe biden, democratic strategist hilary rosen has her own prediction. >> i think she's going to run for president, but we're wasting our time speculating about it, she marches to her own drummer, she's not going to be rushed. >> have you talked to her at all about this, do you know if she's talked to political advisers about this? >> i have talked to her about it, and i've been shut down. >> reporter: clinton would have company. >> do you know any good diners in new hampshire or iowa. >> i will not stand by and watch the people of south carolina ignored. >> reporter: all kidding aside, paul ryan and marco rubio already appear to be hitting on themes that seem to distance themselves from mitt romney's toxic comments on people who receive government assistance. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. >> i've heard it suggested that the problem is, that the american people have changed. too many people want things from government

this out and the old joe biden way when he dealt with mitch mcconnell a couple years ago. extend the bush tax cuts, in the white house, they called biden the mcconnell whisperer, and the horse whisperer, and the way, one for you, one for me, and that's the way you make a deal. >> this moment, look to you we have a deal by christmas eve, new year's eve or over the cliff? >> who knows. somebody who thinks they know is only guessing. maybe there's a strategy in the white house, you know, by a certain date they'll work it out. >> play book, we always start the morning with the papers. we still love the print papers, assistant of the washington post, which, this morning, says fiscal warning yet to phase wall street. the stock markets are convinced that the fiscal drama is going to work out. the financial times has the opposite headline. they say wall street anxiety grows so which of these is more true? >> you know, -- [laughter] on wall street, they live in a zone of peaceful coexistence of optimism and pessimism. you can talk to somebody in the investment world in wall street, and in the morn

down and really talk this out in the old joe biden way when he would do with mitch mcconnell just a couple years ago to extend the bush tax cut and the white house to call biden and will, whisperer. and the horse whisperer and one for you, one for me, one for you, one for me. that's hard, but that's the way you make a deal. >> at this moment does it look like the image of a christmas eve company or steve or do week over the cliff? >> who knows. somebody who thinks they know is only guessing. maybe there's some strategy in the white house that by a certain date a work something out. >> really stop the morning with the papers. we still love the current papers. mr. woodward is assistant managing editor of the "washington post," which says fiscal year earnings yet to face wall street as stock markets are convinced that the fiscal drama is going to work out. the "financial times" has the opposite headline. they say wall street anxiety grows. so which of these is more true? >> on wall street they live in the zone of eternal and i'm peaceful coexistence of optimism and pessimism. you can

romney showed up at a costco. >> bill: joe biden went. mitt romney decided he should go. >> he showed up in la jolla, california. he bought all kinds of things, most made in china. he bought paper plates, dixie cups wrapping paper v8 juice drinks pretzel snacks, bisquick and bottled water. he also got a model car which will be a gift for one of his grandkids made by the mysto company. >> bill: they've got a car elevator! >> good point. tmz got the run-down of what he bought. they also reached out to mysto the people who make the toy cars. none of their products are made in america. they're all made in china. >> bill: evan, you've reported, now we know from john sununu echoing mitt romney that he's in la jolla and barack obama is in the white house because obama depended on people who were dependent on government. it is just the handout, the takers are the ones who elected barack obama. >> right. the gifts argument. i think there has been a split on the language of this, whether or not the actual ideals of

diner, vice president joe biden said if the gop were willing, a debt deal could be done in short order. >> it would take 15 minutes from the time the decision was made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent the middle class tax cut. the president would probably have me sprint up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. >> reporter: but even after the latest in a series of private calls with the president, house speaker john boehner says the white house is stone walling. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> reporter: this morning in his weekly address, president obama is holding a hard line on raising rates for the wealthy. >> and if we're serious about protecting middle class families, then we're also go to have to ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. that's one principle i won't compromise on. >> reporter: but how much higher could be the key to compromise. the top tax rate is set to rise from 35 to 39.6% on january 1st. when asked if a middle gr

cutter. you remember her? she was the deputy campaign manager for the obama-biden ticket suggested that mitt romney might have committed a felony on his tax returns. sunday night, she e-mailed them to reach a fiscal deal. republicans have balked at raising those tax rates. they are identified by marcus at countries job creators. >> for the first time in two decades, they are there will tell revenues go up as part is the plan. but they have to tell us what they're willing to do with revenues. it's definitely very hard for republicans. reporter: earlier you saw the meeting of four congressional leaders on november 16 at the white house. at that time, harry reid spoke of a follow-up session was to be held next week. that never helped happened and the clock ticks on. jenna: we have that clock right on our screen. just in case you forgot. jon: get ready for the baby. just into fox news, prince william and his wife, the former kate middleton, they are expecting. standing in a grocery line, looking at the tabloids, and one of them said she is pregnant. they may be onto something be till t

are things that we can all agree on and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and, for that matter, in the joint select committee. and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline, i think he's got an obligation to send one to the congress. and a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. if you look at the plans that the white house has talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. we're ready and eager to talk to the president and to work with him to make sure that the american people aren't disadvantaged by what's happening here in washington. >> good morning. i think at this point most folks in the country and certainly in this town know where both sides are on taxes. but to the speaker's point, we have not had any discussion in any specifics with this president about the real problem, which is spending. we have got to do something about the spending. an obsession to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. what will solve the problem is doing somethi

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